Recent Episodes
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Episode 58: Peter Bergen – Kirkpatrick, UFOs, and the Pentagon
Jan 26, 2024 – 30:21 -
Episode 57: Alex Dietrich, Clouds, Critical Thinking, and UFOs
Aug 25, 2023 – 1:35:34 -
Episode 56: Robert Bartholomew – Havana Syndrome and Mass Psychogenic Illness
Oct 22, 2021 – 57:11 -
Episode 55 – Professor Avi Loeb: The Galileo Project
Aug 10, 2021 – 1:05:31 -
Episode 54 – Mia Bloom and Sophia Moskalenko: Pastels and Pedophiles
Aug 5, 2021 – 1:11:45 -
Episode 53 – Jason Colavito – UFOs and the Invisible College, How Did We Get Here?
Jun 24, 2021 – 1:02:59 -
Episode 52 – Luis Elizondo – UFOs, UAPs, AATIP, and TTSA
Mar 11, 2021 – 1:01:28 -
Episode 51 – Michael: Post Inauguration QAnon Catchup
Mar 10, 2021 – 1:47:58 -
Episode 50 – Alex: Raised by Conspiracy Theorists
Mar 9, 2021 – 1:18:27 -
Episode 49 – Georgina: A QAnon Friend in the UK
Mar 7, 2021 – 55:01 -
Episode 48 – Accidentally Dating a Conspiracy Theorist
Jan 29, 2021 – 1:09:11 -
Episode 47: Sarah – Conspiracy Casualty
Dec 8, 2020 – 58:55 -
Episode 46: Ryan – Growing Out Of 9/11
Aug 29, 2020 – 49:47 -
Episode 45: Brandon Fugal: The Owner of Skinwalker Ranch
May 30, 2020 – 1:40:33 -
Episode 44: Steven Hassan – Cults and Conspiracies
May 15, 2020 – 1:06:11 -
Episode 43 – Tim McMillan: The Challenges of UFO Investigations
May 8, 2020 – 1:44:42 -
Episode 42 – Flat Earth and Coronavirus
Apr 19, 2020 – 1:08:29 -
Episode 41 – Johnny Orbital: Former Flat Earther, Now a Science Advocate
Mar 9, 2020 – 1:19:09 -
Episode 40 – Jeremy Rys: Alien Science and 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
Feb 22, 2020 – 55:17 -
Episode 39 – DJ Thermal Detonator: 9/11 History and Change
Feb 13, 2020 – 1:00:26 -
Episode 38 – Michael: Part 2: QAnon and Predictions
Feb 9, 2020 – -
Episode 37 – Michael: Part 1: UFOs and Alien Encounters
Feb 9, 2020 – 54:11 -
Episode 36 – Gary Voorhis: Tic-Tac UFO Witness
Jan 21, 2020 – 1:21:22 -
Episode 35 – Mike Santangelo: 9/11 Truth vs. B.S.
Jan 18, 2020 – 1:33:52 -
Episode 34 – Stian Arnesen: Debunking, Censorship, 9/11, and UFOs
Jan 11, 2020 – 1:38:17 -
Episode 33 – Anthony Magnabosco: Street Epistemology and Conspiracy Theories
Jan 4, 2020 – 58:54 -
Episode 31: Professor Elizabeth Loftus – Memory and Conspiracy
Dec 18, 2019 – 58:54 -
Episode 30: Tom – 9/11 Why We Believe and Change
Dec 14, 2019 – 59:26 -
Episode 29: Geoff – Everything is a Hoax, The Earth Might Be Flat
Nov 8, 2019 – 1:19:38 -
Episode 28 – Brian Dunning: Skeptoid, Conspiracies Declassified, and Science Friction
Nov 2, 2019 – 59:35 -
Episode 27 – Michael Shermer: Conspiracies and Conspiracy Theories — The Great Courses
Oct 10, 2019 – 1:32:52 -
Episode 26: UFO Jesus – Disclosure, the Nimitz Tic-Tac, and UFO Evidence
Oct 3, 2019 – 1:01:03 -
Episode 25 – Jason Bermas: Producer of Loose Change, Shade, Invisible Empire
Sep 28, 2019 – 1:17:01 -
Episode 24: Nick Pope – Area 51, UFOs and UFOlogy
Sep 26, 2019 – 1:02:52 -
Episode 23 – Ian/TheoryQED: UFOs, Government Cover-ups, and Alien Visitors.
Sep 23, 2019 – 1:11:07 -
Episode 22 – Seth Shostak: SETI Senior Astronomer on the Search for ETs, UFO “Disclosure”, and Storming Area 51.
Sep 14, 2019 – 50:45 -
Episode 21: Donald Friedman – Engineer at the World Trade Center After 9/11
Sep 10, 2019 – 47:16 -
Episode 20 – JM Talboo: Debunker of 9/11 Debunkers
Sep 8, 2019 – 1:18:37 -
Episode 19 – Mike Rothschild: Decline of QAnon, Death of Epstein, and other Conspiracies.
Sep 1, 2019 – 1:01:30 -
Episode 18 – Paradigm Shift – A Student With Questions about 9/11 and the Possibility of Explosives
Aug 25, 2019 – 1:31:00 -
Episode 17: Willie – Rabbit Hole Escapee (ETRH – Preface)
Aug 10, 2019 – 1:09:03 -
Episode 16: Adam Taylor – Retired 9/11 Truth Activist
Aug 4, 2019 – 1:05:50 -
Episode 15: Brad – Mathematics vs. Conspiracy Theories
Jul 28, 2019 – 48:06 -
Episode 14: Rory – Flat Earth Debunking and Spiritual Journeys
Jul 21, 2019 – 1:04:01 -
Episode 13 – Professor David Keith – Geoengineering Research and the Chemtrails Conspiracy Theory
Jul 14, 2019 – 52:24 -
Episode 12: Paul – Escape from Planet X
Jul 6, 2019 – 41:44 -
Episode 11: Jim Lee – Chemtrails, Geoengineering, Conspiracies, and Semantics
Jun 30, 2019 – 1:15:00 -
Episode 10: Jen Senko – Director of “The Brainwashing of my Dad”
Jun 24, 2019 – 51:26 -
Episode 9: Joe – Former Chemtrail Conspiracist, Current New World Order Conspiracist
Jun 17, 2019 – 53:55 -
Episode 8: Sasha: Chatting with a Flat Earther
Jun 11, 2019 – 1:04:42
Recent Reviews
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Letters0Mick West is doing a service to humanityIn an increasingly unstable world this kind of respectful confrontation of the wild discussion happening on the internet is needed.
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former WNYC supporterLeftist GarbagePresented as objective criticism of conspiracy theories but mostly just Leftists portraying conservatives as nut jobs as if there’s no conspiracies in the Left. What is a woman?
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Briseis27What is a “professional debunker”?Thrasymachus was an excellent debunker, as was Therisites. Thucydides and EH Carr— Their effectiveness was rooted in their capacity to draw fire power from an array of critical thinking tools, directing that power to their debunking work. I appreciate the importance of “debunking” Qanon, however one can do so, but West’s participation in the UAP debate strikes me as quite unconvincing. I would love to hear someone effectively debunk this stuff, because it freaks me out!! The fact that West’s contributions are so shallow, along with his tendency to cherry pick in ways that are glaringly obvious — well, this kind of freaks me out. If this is the only real debunker we have, then I have no choice but to assume this phenomenon is bigger than I once thought. That is how I happened on West— looking for someone who could tell me this was all hooey, and not finding it… folks, our whole legal system is premised on the idea that multiple corroborated testimonies actually mean something — videos, they just aren’t the only form of evidence — if they were, we would be in big trouble, given the growing sophistication of deep fakes…
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StatstarDisrespectfulMick is so disrespectful and rude. His skews on data and personal bias keep him and listeners from the truth. He should receive a gold medal for the mental gymnastics he undertakes to explain away anything that doesn’t fit his narrative. There’s not a zero star option or he would get it.
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parker-1HiLove the one with Jason Colavito
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DekkooMick WestYou are a legend. Keep this up.
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Bunny CubThe UFO peopleThe UFO people Mick interviews take us into the rabbit hole itself—which is terrifying. At the end of the interview one knows absolutely nothing. Everything is an intriguing possibility but nothing can be really defined because that would kill off the scene (and their industry). They also gather credibility to themselves by citing government titles or inside knowledge of “programs” but this special access never yields superior evidence. When asked they’ll pivot to describing internal government processes and we’re off down into another rabbit hole. The cumulative effect of the interview is a schmoozy cloud of vague pseudo-authenticity. It’s a feeling-tone of “wow this is an impressive guy, he knows a lot of Military people, but he’s real humble too. Something is definitely up I’ll check out that History Channel show.” They also attempt to use fawning against the interviewer, audience, and UFO community which is a propaganda technique. It’s either a psy op, grift, or both.
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Cthom88Great stuff!I love listening to Mick’s podcast and admire his ability to calmly and effectively converse with people who would have me at wit’s end with their hair-brained ideas on the way the world works. It’s been a while since he dropped a new episode and i’m anxiously awaiting the next!
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No Neuro BabbleCompassion and Patience for the PerplexedMick has previously taken such an assiduous approach to debunking, bypassing the quick thrill of condescension for the hard work for verification, research and self validation of things such as optical illusions and radar imaging artifacts. In this podcast he sets himself on the equally demanding task of minimally confrontational friendly chats mostly with true believers. Don’t listen if you are looking for gotcha moments and anyone “totally destroying” anyone. But do listen if you are interested in the real world and human value of a skeptical approach to bunk and paranoid thinking. Like science proper, rationality and skepticism are maddeningly slow processes that can only help those who want the help. Since irrationality isn’t something that only lives in certain people, rather it lives in all of us some of the time, it behooves us to be both self critical and self compassionate. Because our thinking and perceiving are mostly evolutionarily tuned kluges, we are all using a type of FLIR map of reality. It’s really good at some tasks but error and artifact prone in many other ways. Yes there are clusters of bad thinking, but the world isn’t really properly divided into the coherent folks and the confused. If you haven’t noticed yourself being irrational, you haven’t noticed yourself.
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That One Lady EConspiracies and DialogueI enjoy listening to the well thought out and polite interaction that Mick has with his guests. Especially when I’m screaming ‘BS’ at my speaker. Great, insightful discussions. Really enjoyed the most recent discussion with the former Moonie. Keep up the great work.
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z5oliMGreat episode, and great podcastThe debate with Paradigm Shift is the best episode so far, Mick. One discussion on the topic of 9//11 conspiracy I never hear much about is the motivation of the supposed conspirators: why would it be necessary to both plant explosives and hit the towers with aircraft? Hiding the installation of explosives seems like it would be much more difficult, involve far more people, than hijacking a number of planes. Was the goal of the conspirators to actually collapse the buildings? Or was it to instill fear? I’d argue that simply colliding aircraft into iconic buildings would achieve the goal, if your goal was to instill fear, even without a collapse. The collapse was an added bonus, so to speak, the icing on the cake, for the conspirators. If however, their goal was to collapse the building, why go through the hassle of both rigging the building with explosives, and then hijacking aircraft, if you’ve already rigged the building with explosives? Why not just blow it up, and save yourself the trouble of having to teach your attackers how to fly planes, and then actually hijacking them? In the countless other smaller explosive attacks by multitudes of terrorists throughout the decades, no terror organization ever tried to obscure the fact that they used explosives. If the conspiracy is, of course, that the US government tried to frame Al Qaeda, my argument still stands: why wouldn’t aircraft be enough, even without a collapse? And operationally, how did it work? Were the technicians observing from a rooftop somewhere remotely to see which floors the aircrafts hit, so that they could trigger the explosives to begin the collapse from those precise floors?
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MichMusicManFriendly DialogueNice to hear conversations between people who fundamentally disagree on issues but to do so cordially
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bushcasaGreat ShowMick is one of the smartest polite guys out there. He dives deep into conspiratorial thinking in order to give himself a better understanding. Along the way he’s able to help some people shed light on, and question their own beliefs.
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